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Old 09-06-2017, 05:40 PM
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Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

Hi All, am coming to the end of the "sweet deal" Diablo Rosso Corsa rear I bought last year...

I loved the handling of the tires (installed F/R as a set), and the front probably has another season on it. The rear is mostly worn at the center, its a little hard to tell where the 'wear bars' are.

Question: Has anyone tried the Diablo Rosso III (non-Corsa) tire? I notice they (DRs or DRCs) dont even show up on the latest poll.

The profile looks similar to the DRC (which I think contributes to the easier L/R transitions).

Was wondering if it would be OK to put a 'less grippy' DR III on the rear and leave the front DRC until next season...

Thoughts? (FYI not sure if this posts in General K13 or K13 Tires... where I wanted to post it).
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:59 PM
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

Hey John. I fitted a pair of drc IIIs on my k12r for last year's oz iBMW rally. Very impressed with the grip levels in wet (it pissed down) and the dry. It laid into corners very easily and the wear rate is excellent. My favourite tyre has always been the supercorsa sp but I rate the Rosso III right up there but with better wear.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

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Hey John. I fitted a pair of drc IIIs on my k12r for last year's oz iBMW rally. Very impressed with the grip levels in wet (it pissed down) and the dry. It laid into corners very easily and the wear rate is excellent. My favourite tyre has always been the supercorsa sp but I rate the Rosso III right up there but with better wear.

Hey John, I followed Capt Howdy down the twisty mountain (Mt Hotham) with no guard rails on day 3 of the last Australian Rally. This guy can ride very well, and fully loaded for touring, coming down that hill, he was carving it up on those tyres, with mogs in front. And yes it pissed down rain a few days too.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

I'm not one to sing any tyre's praises, BUT...the Angel GT's did/have impressed me.

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This guy can ride very well, and fully loaded for touring, coming down that hill, he was carving it up on those tyres, with mogs in front.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

I" think" aussie k 13 has them on his motorsport says he cant wear them out but the ride is a bit harsh, I think !!
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

Another Pirelli Angel GT (Non A-Spec) fan here. Getting about 6500 miles out of them. They're not only good for the first 3000 miles but actually very good all the way to the wear bars. Not many tires in my experience do so well at the tread end of life.
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Any concerns on mixing the 'harder' rear Diablo Rosso III with the stickier (but 3000
km used) Rosso Corsa front? Angel GT will have to wait for next year I think.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

Just put DR IIIs on my '15 RR. Ride is good. Wet traction is good. The OEM Corsa that came on it would activate traction control in the wet. I'm sure it had nothing to do with my throttle hand! I've ridden in the rain and haven't had that problem with the DR III yet.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

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Any concerns on mixing the 'harder' rear Diablo Rosso III with the stickier (but 3000
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Perhaps it's just my quirk, but whatever tire you chose, I highly recommend never changing one tire at a time, and never mixing different tire types... tires are just too critical a component of equipment to improvise with...
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

I have run a sport front (Michelin Pilot Pure) and a sport/touring rear (Pilot Road 2) Sport front does give a little more confidence in the front-end...BUT, both tyres will wear out together.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Perhaps it's just my quirk, but whatever tire you chose, I highly recommend never changing one tire at a time, and never mixing different tire types... tires are just too critical a component of equipment to improvise with...

I have mixed tyres in the past, changed front and rear at different times for the sake of finishing off a tyre. Never had a problem. In fact the Michelin PR4 rear (less than half worn) with a Metzler Roadtec 01 front, was an excellent combination, and the front still looked good by the time the PR4 was getting to the end of its life, so on with a matching Roadtec 01 rear after that. And before that I changed out a punctured angel GT rear for that PR4. So I rode with a half worn Pirelli angel GT front and a brand new Michelin PR4 rear on the last day of Rally II, there was no changing of riding style, flat stick all the way that day chasing Mogs to Mitta Mitta. He also had changed his rear for a new and was running a different brand front. K-man changes tyres between sets to run out a half worn tyre too. Lots of guys in Australia do this, and never have problems. Never heard of anyone coming off their bike becauze their tyres didnt match. Tyres down here are expensive too.
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I" think" aussie k 13 has them on his motorsport says he cant wear them out but the ride is a bit harsh, I think !!
Correct.

They are fantastic wet and dry for grip and feedback & seem like they will last forever
BUT on the K13 Motorsport I found they made the bike feel harsh and stiff on rough roads - which or government prefers to build here in Oz.
They do have the usual Pirelli characteristics of falling into corners when worn....they just dont look really worn (at 6500km)
Way too stiff in the sidewalls for Jenns S1000R as well
So Im going back to Angel GT and S21 Bridgestone for Jenn
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I have mixed tyres in the past, changed front and rear at different times for the sake of finishing off a tyre. Never had a problem. In fact the Michelin PR4 rear (less than half worn) with a Metzler Roadtec 01 front, was an excellent combination, and the front still looked good by the time the PR4 was getting to the end of its life, so on with a matching Roadtec 01 rear after that. And before that I changed out a punctured angel GT rear for that PR4. So I rode with a half worn Pirelli angel GT front and a brand new Michelin PR4 rear on the last day of Rally II, there was no changing of riding style, flat stick all the way that day chasing Mogs to Mitta Mitta. He also had changed his rear for a new and was running a different brand front. K-man changes tyres between sets to run out a half worn tyre too. Lots of guys in Australia do this, and never have problems. Never heard of anyone coming off their bike becauze their tyres didnt match. Tyres down here are expensive too.
As I said, perhaps it's just my quirk... I didn't say anything about anyone coming off their bike. The fact is, with proper riding a set of matched tires should wear roughly the same...
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As I said, perhaps it's just my quirk... I didn't say anything about anyone coming off their bike. The fact is, with proper riding a set of matched tires should wear roughly the same...

Hey Charlie, " the fact is, with proper riding a set of matched tires should wear roughly the same..." is an opinion, not a fact. We could start a whole thread on what we all consider "proper riding" is. I realize nothing was said about people coming off their bikes, I was just addressing the fear that is being associated with running different tyres.
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Re: Tired of Tires? Diablo Rosso III's ?

"Tyres down here are expensive too." This is a reasonable item to factor in. I too suggest changing tires in sets if they are close. But we have access to cheap tires here. I have suggested this two tire change pattern to some riders as I change their tires. Mainly because I see them trying to get the last mile out of one tire or the other and go past the safe limit of a tire. I have a set of Bridgestone S20's on my S bike and they are no available but the S21 replaces them. I'm surprised how much I like them and the price. And, I have to say, I buy them in pairs, change them myself so it is cheap.
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