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Old 11-04-2018, 06:47 AM
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Hi There (k1200s)

As you can probably guess from my username I have owned many Hondas for many years, however in July of this year I finally took the plunge and bought a mint condition 2008 K1200s in yellow and silver with sport saddle bags, a Garmin zumo sat nav and a full service history. 21 ish thousand on the clock.


I have to say I love the bike but like many owners am a little concerned about issues with the bike, especially clutch and transmission problems. I rode the bike for a few months before parking her up for the winter and have to say the power is addictive, if a little clinically smooth compared to the VFR for example.


The points to note so far with the bike are horribly clunky going into first gear, also second and third clunk, especially when hot. I wince and grit my teeth when selecting these gears. I get a squeal from the clutch when pulling off sometimes, especially after a long cruise again when the engine is hot.


I have been running my VFR800 FI of 1998 vintage since the K1200s has been parked up, and have to say although it feels like a moped compared to the BMW, the gear shift is as smooth as silk.


The BMW will be going for a service in Spring next year and i'm hoping that with some good quality oil it will smooth out the gearchange and clutch.


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K1300s end can to replace the Bazooka
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I will put some photos up soon when I can work out how to do it ....
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:23 AM
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Nothing you can do about the 1st gear clunk, I don't recall any noisy clunk fron 2nd and 3rd gear on my 2006 K12S but my transmission did fail with less than 10k on the clock.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:59 AM
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Re: Hi There (k1200s)

Welcome to the site. You may want to update your profile to include your name so we know what to call you.

Yes the clunking is not going away - one of the quirks of these bikes.
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:16 AM
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:28 AM
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

The bike will be going back to the main stealer for a service in spring like I said. This is where all of the servicing has been done and where the bike was bought from new.

It has not been serviced for 2 years but has only done 2 or 3 k since last service. I have been quoted 250 GBP for the service or 300 GBP for a service that includes the “higher quality” oil. I’m tempted to go for this in an effort to sort out the clunkiness, or will I be wasting my money?

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Old 11-04-2018, 10:07 AM
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Re: Hi There (k1200s)

Welcome to the forum whateveryournameis. Lots of great info here about your 1200s. Your bike still looks new. Enjoy
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Nice chicken threads
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Welcome to the site, if you make your photos smaller, say 1250x1000 pixels and they'll fit the page!
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:24 PM
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They look great on my 28" monitor
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Nice bike!


Welcome to I-bmw!


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By the look of it, you haven't got much of an opportunity to scrub out them chicken strips...


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Old 11-13-2018, 11:27 PM
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Sweet... got one just like it but an '07, 80K,

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Re: Hi There (k1200s)

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Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

The bike will be going back to the main stealer for a service in spring like I said. This is where all of the servicing has been done and where the bike was bought from new.

It has not been serviced for 2 years but has only done 2 or 3 k since last service. I have been quoted 250 GBP for the service or 300 GBP for a service that includes the “higher quality” oil. I’m tempted to go for this in an effort to sort out the clunkiness, or will I be wasting my money?

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Firstly welcome to the site! And for letting us know what to call you.

As regards the service, I think the big service - where they check the valve clearances etc - is at 18,000 miles. As your bike is at 21k check with the dealer that this has been done.

Using the "higher quality" oil will not make a jot of difference to the clunky transmission. They clunk and that's it. A bit of clutch judder is not unusual either.

These are the issues they fixed with the K13.

If you're not fussed about having a full dealer service history, changing the oil and filter is straightforward. You just remove the lower fairing to access the drain plug and the filter. Because it's a dry sump the easiest way to extract the oil from the under the seat tank is to remove the filter, position a washing up bowl to the side of the oil filter hole and crank the engine. The oil will p**s out so make sure the bowl is correctly positioned. A few seconds cranking is enough. Then just install the new filter, refit the drain plug with a new washer and refit the lower fairing. Just use oil with the appropriate AP number.
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Old 11-18-2018, 01:32 PM
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Hi Welshman,

Many thanks for your advice.

My bike really is an immaculate example and is a credit to its former owners. It was bought from and been serviced by the same dealer in its 10 year life. I have always serviced my own bikes, thus far, as I feel it is done right, however with this K1200S it seems as if I owe it to it to keep up the servicing at the dealer.

I am however still torn between spending the £250 or so on a service on a 10 year old bike or investing that money in a GS911, so for the cost of one service, I can do my own servicing thereafter and be able to reset the light (does mine have one)?

I have enquired about the recalls at the dealer, who assure me that all the things that make the bike self destruct have been done.

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Hi Welshman,

Many thanks for your advice.

My bike really is an immaculate example and is a credit to its former owners. It was bought from and been serviced by the same dealer in its 10 year life. I have always serviced my own bikes, thus far, as I feel it is done right, however with this K1200S it seems as if I owe it to it to keep up the servicing at the dealer.

I am however still torn between spending the £250 or so on a service on a 10 year old bike or investing that money in a GS911, so for the cost of one service, I can do my own servicing thereafter and be able to reset the light (does mine have one)?

I have enquired about the recalls at the dealer, who assure me that all the things that make the bike self destruct have been done.

Many thanks

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I don't know how the GS 911 works in any detail but there are quite a few people on this site who use them.

Try the search function first to find out if there's a specific answer to your question. If not, think about posting a specific thread on the subject.

I'd use a dealer for the stuff only a dealer can do - like the valve clearance check.

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I can do my own servicing thereafter and be able to reset the light (does mine have one)?





Seems like McFly told me his 2007 K1200S does not have a service reminder.
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Hi Hondaman. One of the important services is to make sure to change the brake fluid at least every other year, regardless of how much he you ride it. Regarding the clunky shifting, that is not unusual. I found that shifting early and barely using the clutch lever smoothed out the shifting to 2nd and 3rd.
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Well chaps,

I opted to go for the dealer route since they offer discounted servicing in the winter so the bike will get all it needs inc. brake fluid change, oil, filters etc. For around £200 GBP.

When it was in I told them to MOT it too as that had since expired. Now I had a phone call today to tell me that the crown wheel bearings are noisy and shot which was going to cost me an extra £450. This was an MOT failure.

This was a huge surprise as I had not noticed this when riding it, the FD looks immaculate with not a trace of oil leaking etc.

I have told them to get on with it ...

Any thoughts?

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This was an MOT failure.


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Old 11-22-2018, 12:42 PM
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A yearly vehicle condition check here in the UK. It is a legal requirement which determines whether a vehicle is fit to use on the road or not.
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Welcome, with the style final drive you have and the miles, very unusual for that bearing to fail. The Hexcode web site will give you all the information needed about the GS911. A good place to start doing your own maintenance and save some money.

" horribly clunky going into first gear" Yes, happens. I'll give you a solution. The clutch throw out bearing is robust and well lubricated so it can be used . Before you start the bike put it in first gear, then start it, do the minimal warm up and go riding with some restraint until the bike is warm. Do not go to neutral at any stop, keep it in first gear at all stops, that bearing can handle it. Thus 99% of the major clunk is done. I installed Pazzo levers and this allowed me to do minimal clutch disengagement to help with shifting to other gears.

Make sure you bike has the "jump guard". Do a search hear and you can find how to check. The little 50mm plug in the clutch cover opens and you can look in and see it surrounding the cam drive sprocket. Lots of information on this site about K bikes. None of the maintenance is too difficult if you have tools and the inclination. Some is just tedious. And you get the benefit of knowing your bike and the quality of workmanship. When your bike needs a clutch you live in the UK where Fourhundred4 lives and he can rebuild yours with very good improvements. Thread on that. You have hours reading this Winter.

The K1200S is the original bmw hot rod. It idles nasty and is a handful around town, but on the road is fast and wonderful. All problems have solutions and they are on this forum.
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That sounds about right - the shop will often find something that needs to be addressed. And the optomist in me says that it's legitimate. It's good that you're getting that fixed now.
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The bike spends most of its life in the garage on a rear paddock stand that goes through the center of the wheel if that makes any difference.

The rationale being that it saves using the side stand which I believe is prone to snapping off.

22k does sound rather early for a dealer maintained bike final drive crown gear bearings to fail

Also another question for you boffins (sorry to drag this thread out), will my 2008 MY bike have the later drive shaft. I read that a lot of you folks upgrade to the 1300 one?
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Blimey I haven’t got past the ‘Higher grade oil’ Yet !!!! It’s 5/40 fully syn and little change out of £50 for 4 litres any make you like.
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Chris. Although there have been cases, neither the kick stand nor the drive shaft are prone to failure on your bike. Just do the scheduled maintenance and you probably won't have a failure of a major component. More enjoyable to focus on customizing the bike and planning trips over the winter.
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I know where the OP is coming from and even the case that needed a reframe but it was pre 07 where the majority of K hassle has been.
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Thanks for the advice guys.

Rode it back from the dealers today after MOT and service works inc. crown wheel bearings. £700 worse off but safe in the knowledge that I should have many miles of hassle free riding from what you guys have said. There is a 2 year warranty on the final drive now too

Great weaving through the traffic past those red faced car drivers and opening her up on the carriageway on the way home
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Carriageways? We're those red-faced drivers driving carriages?
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In the US only the Amish drive carraiges.
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