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FP1 and FP2 are in the books, results are a bit unexpected, but its early, hopefully the race will have someone challenging Marquez for the race win, 26 riders competing, that's the largest field I can recall recently.

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Free Practice (1) results from the 2018 Czech Republic MotoGP at Brno, round 10 of 19.

Zarco goes fastest on his final lap of Free Practice 1 for the Czech Republic MotoGP at a scorching hot Brno, with the top 13 riders covered by 0.8s

Morbidelli is returning from a fracture to his left hand at Assen, while Guintoli and Bradl are competing as wild-cards.


1. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 56.647s [Lap 16/16] 305km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 56.720s +0.073s [7/16] 314k
3. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 56.828s +0.181s [4/18] 308k
4. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 56.831s +0.184s [14/17] 306k
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 56.888s +0.241s [13/16] 307k
6. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 57.079s +0.432s [14/17] 305k
7. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 57.289s +0.642s [5/17] 309k
8. Stefan Bradl GER HRC Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 57.291s +0.644s [15/18] 312k
9. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 57.321s +0.674s [16/17] 306k
10. Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 1m 57.325s +0.678s [15/17] 311k
11. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 57.386s +0.739s [4/17] 311k
12. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 57.426s +0.779s [4/14] 307k
13. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 57.428s +0.781s [5/15] 306k
14. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 57.764s +1.117s [6/18] 308k
15. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 57.938s +1.291s [15/18] 312k
16. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 58.027s +1.380s [11/18] 305k
17. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 58.032s +1.385s [8/16] 305k
18. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 58.098s +1.451s [14/16] 310k
19. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 58.114s +1.467s [17/18] 305k
20. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 58.226s +1.579s [16/16] 303k
21. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 58.238s +1.591s [14/15] 306k
22. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 58.299s +1.652s [3/16] 303k
23. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 58.497s +1.850s [15/15] 303k
24. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 58.635s +1.988s [13/15] 305k
25. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 59.052s +2.405s [13/13] 306k
26. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 1m 59.863s +3.216s [14/14] 305k

Free Practice (2) results from the 2018 Czech Republic MotoGP at Brno, round 10 of 19.

Morbidelli is returning from a fracture to his left hand at Assen, while Guintoli and Bradl are competing as wild-cards.

1. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 55.976s [Lap 16/18] 311km/h (Top Speed)
2. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 56.099s +0.123s [15/16] 310k
3. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 56.144s +0.168s [18/19] 309k
4. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 56.200s +0.224s [13/14] 308k
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 56.218s +0.242s [14/16] 312k
6. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 56.392s +0.416s [16/17] 309k
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 56.480s +0.504s [15/17] 307k
8. Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 1m 56.521s +0.545s [18/18] 313k
9. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 56.535s +0.559s [15/16] 307k
10. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 56.635s +0.659s [4/18] 310k
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 56.644s +0.668s [17/18] 306k
12. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 56.661s +0.685s [19/19] 309k
13. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 56.915s +0.939s [16/16] 310k
14. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 57.014s +1.038s [7/17] 312k
15. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 57.205s +1.229s [12/18] 311k
16. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 57.417s +1.441s [14/15] 308k
17. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 57.473s +1.497s [14/15] 310k
18. Stefan Bradl GER HRC Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 57.479s +1.503s [16/18] 310k
19. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 57.498s +1.522s [14/15] 306k
20. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 57.506s +1.530s [14/15] 309k
21. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 57.647s +1.671s [18/18] 307k
22. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 57.729s +1.753s [15/16] 305k
23. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 57.941s +1.965s [13/13] 304k
24. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 58.127s +2.151s [13/17] 309k
25. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 1m 58.453s +2.477s [16/16] 308k
26. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 58.617s +2.641s [9/17] 308k
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This is the only way for me to follow the race.


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Re: SPOILER - Brno MotoGP

Qualifying in the books, looked like Marquez was going to be on the pole, again, but at the last moment Rossi came from 12th to second, and Dovi took the pole pushing Marquez to third, great stuff, but I suspect that after about a dozen laps or so Marquez will force his way to the front and disappear again, hope not, but we'll see, and FWIW, it was on BeInSports through my provider, Frontier, Go Vale Go!

MotoGP Brno MotoGP Qualifying Results 2018
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Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:54.689
2 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:54.956
3 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:54.961
4 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:55.038
5 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:55.055
6 Danilo Petrucci Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 1:55.203
7 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:55.221
8 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:55.270
9 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:55.431
10 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:55.474
11 Tito Rabat Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:55.686
12 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:55.823
13 Franco Morbidelli Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:56.029
14 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 1:56.031
15 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:56.218
16 Hafizh Syahrin Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:56.285
17 Jack Miller Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 1:56.316
18 Stefan Bradl Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:56.330
19 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:56.353
20 Takaaki Nakagami LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda RC213V 1:56.512
21 Sylvain Guintoli Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:57.037
22 Thomas Luthi Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:57.208
23 Karel Abraham Ángel Nieto Team Ducati 1:57.217
24 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:57.250
25 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati 1:57.438
26 Xavier Simeon Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:58.048
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Awesome qualifying!!!
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Awesome race, delighted to see Dovi win the race, and not see MM win, good shoot out at the end between Lorenzo and MM, with Lorenzo getting the better of it for a change. Rossi led for a while, but perhaps a poor front tire choice, medium, when all the other front runners were on the hard, may have left him to fourth, where he just managed to nip Crutchlow at the end. A great race though. Vinale's season troubles continue with a crash on lap 1, and BeInSport was on for the Frontier network, unfortunate that Verizon pulled it

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MotoGP Brno MotoGP Race Results 2018
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time/Gap

1 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP18 41:07.728
2 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP18 0.178
3 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 0.368
4 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 2.902
5 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 2.958
6 Danilo Petrucci Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 3.768
7 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 6.159
8 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 7.479
9 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 7.575
10 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 8.326
11 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 8.653
12 Jack Miller Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 16.549
13 Franco Morbidelli Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 19.603
14 Hafizh Syahrin Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 21.381
15 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 23.159
16 Thomas Luthi Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 27.673
17 Takaaki Nakagami LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda RC213V 28.311
18 Karel Abraham Ángel Nieto Team Ducati 41.172
19 Sylvain Guintoli Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 42.411
20 Xavier Simeon Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 50.941
DNF Tito Rabat Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 13 LAPS
DNF Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati 16 LAPS
DNF Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 20 LAPS
DNF Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 0 LAPS
DNF Stefan Bradl Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 0 LAPS
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Glad that MM didn't win for a change!
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Awesome race, delighted to see Dovi win the race, and not see MM win, good shoot out at the end between Lorenzo and MM, with Lorenzo getting the better of it for a change. Rossi led for a while, but perhaps a poor front tire choice, medium, when all the other front runners were on the hard, may have left him to fourth, where he just managed to nip Crutchlow at the end. A great race though. Vinale's season troubles continue with a crash on lap 1, and BeInSport was on for the Frontier network, unfortunate that Verizon pulled it

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/motog...-results-2018/

MotoGP Brno MotoGP Race Results 2018
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time/Gap

1 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP18 41:07.728
2 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP18 0.178
3 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 0.368
4 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 2.902
5 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 2.958
6 Danilo Petrucci Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 3.768
7 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 6.159
8 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 7.479
9 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 7.575
10 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 8.326
11 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 8.653
12 Jack Miller Alma Pramac Racing Ducati GP18 16.549
13 Franco Morbidelli Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 19.603
14 Hafizh Syahrin Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 21.381
15 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 23.159
16 Thomas Luthi Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 27.673
17 Takaaki Nakagami LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda RC213V 28.311
18 Karel Abraham Ángel Nieto Team Ducati 41.172
19 Sylvain Guintoli Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 42.411
20 Xavier Simeon Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 50.941
DNF Tito Rabat Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 13 LAPS
DNF Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati 16 LAPS
DNF Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 20 LAPS
DNF Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 0 LAPS
DNF Stefan Bradl Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 0 LAPS

How does he seriously make that choice????
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How does he seriously make that choice????
These riders have so much data - so much experience with the tires it is unbelievable.

They also like all of us to some extent(probably not too much)like a certain feel - these guys know the absolute limits of these tires and if they think they can get even the slightest advantage they will chance it.

We don't know how much if any the medium front tire played into his performance - maybe if he went with the hard front he would not have had as good of a start at the beginning of the race?

The tires they are running are all super in regard to traction - they are trying to get the best of both worlds great traction at the start and at the finish.

If he had won the race maybe everyone would have said it was because he went with the medium front - easy to make a statement after the fact.
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No explanation from Rossi other than "I wasn't fast enough." In a few other places he said that the real issue he was having was the same one all along, rear tire issues as the software controlling acceleration isn't working as it should.

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I think that at the end for me it was a good race because I made a good start, a good first few laps, and I always stayed in the front group. The problem was that I wasn’t fast enough to fight with Dovizioso, Marquez, and Lorenzo. I didn’t have enough pace, unfortunately, and that was a shame because I wanted to try to arrive on the podium, for sure. At the end I did a very good battle with Cal. I was able to overtake him in the last chicane and recovered one place, but it wasn’t enough for the podium.
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Vinales skipped the Monday test having hurt or injured his shoulder in the race crash on Sunday.
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These riders have so much data - so much experience with the tires it is unbelievable.

They also like all of us to some extent(probably not too much)like a certain feel - these guys know the absolute limits of these tires and if they think they can get even the slightest advantage they will chance it.

We don't know how much if any the medium front tire played into his performance - maybe if he went with the hard front he would not have had as good of a start at the beginning of the race?

The tires they are running are all super in regard to traction - they are trying to get the best of both worlds great traction at the start and at the finish.

If he had won the race maybe everyone would have said it was because he went with the medium front - easy to make a statement after the fact.

But he didn't win the race and he was leading...he fell back....he was the only one with a Med tire....I certainly don't think it's stretch to think he may have made a mistake going with the med tire.
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But he didn't win the race and he was leading...he fell back....he was the only one with a Med tire....I certainly don't think it's stretch to think he may have made a mistake going with the med tire.
Every race we hear all about it was the tires that caused a rider to not finish well - and I'm not saying it does not factor in - because it absolutely does - but there is a lot more going on than just the tires.

Rider mistakes - bike setup - engine performance all of this factors in. Rider physical conditioning.

We have all seen some of these riders do what appears to us not possible on worn out tires - and yes even win races.

How much grip if any did VR lose I don't know and how much more did all the other riders have at the end of the race again I don't know.

Could simply have been the Ducati's are running great at the moment - have more power than any other bike. Honda has been very consistent not to mention they have the best rider on the planet - Yamaha has had problems this season - really so many variables we can't just say it was a tire issue.

All the riders are managing their tires - it looks like Lorenzo would have done better in several races if he could have managed his tires better?
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Every race we hear all about it was the tires that caused a rider to not finish well - and I'm not saying it does not factor in - because it absolutely does - but there is a lot more going on than just the tires.

Rider mistakes - bike setup - engine performance all of this factors in. Rider physical conditioning.

We have all seen some of these riders do what appears to us not possible on worn out tires - and yes even win races.

How much grip if any did VR lose I don't know and how much more did all the other riders have at the end of the race again I don't know.

Could simply have been the Ducati's are running great at the moment - have more power than any other bike. Honda has been very consistent not to mention they have the best rider on the planet - Yamaha has had problems this season - really so many variables we can't just say it was a tire issue.

All the riders are managing their tires - it looks like Lorenzo would have done better in several races if he could have managed his tires better?


For sure there a lot factors that weigh into a performance. And of course we will never know the real reason...personally I think they should all run the same hardness of tires. Then it's never a question.
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I haven't watched the race but in the post qualy presser, he admitted it was a mistake not trying the hard compound in practice earlier and when he finally did he was painfully slow. He just didn't have the pace on used tires and he knew it.

Such is the motogp's bike sensitivity to tire choice and setup.

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Wow. what a great race! Finally sat down to watch it.

Lorenzo and Marquez had quite a battle the last few laps. I could watch that all day. Lorenzo and Dovi had a couple passes and repasses as well. The contrasting styles were interesting to watch with Lorenzo trying to maintain a high corner speed and Dovi squaring off the corners purposefully and repassing on corner exit. Really nice.


I've got to find the Austria race now...
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Jorge out rode Mighty Mouth. Couldn't understand why everyone took the tight right hander and were forced to scrub speed coming out so tight. Then like all the others, MM dives under Lorenzo and chugs out having lost his acceleration... Lorenzo went wide on a perfect apex and smoked him. He never looked back and crushed his future teamee. That was the best corner pass all season.

Ducati has to be kicking somebodies ass in the backroom after letting Lorenzo go to Honda... #4 MotoGP Championship coming up for Jorge!
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Jorge out rode Mighty Mouth. Couldn't understand why everyone took the tight right hander and were forced to scrub speed coming out so tight. Then like all the others, MM dives under Lorenzo and chugs out having lost his acceleration... Lorenzo went wide on a perfect apex and smoked him. He never looked back and crushed his future teamee. That was the best corner pass all season.

Ducati has to be kicking somebodies ass in the backroom after letting Lorenzo go to Honda... #4 MotoGP Championship coming up for Jorge!




When you said "Mighty Mouth" I thought you were referring to the biggest loudmouth ever in MotoGP in recent times... certain guy in loud neon colors...


I have no idea, no idea, how Ducati can make mistakes of that caliber.
Lorenzo himself complained to the Spanish media:
"This is me you are taking about. I'm not a racer who's never won a Championship! I'm a 5 times World Champion!. Now, I'm upset, and you don't want an upset (cabreado) Lorenzo. You will see shortly what I'm capable of."


and he sure showed them. He actually said that once they gave him the stupid fuel tank mods he's been requesting he was going to start making podiums. And he did the next race.
Not a big fan of Lorenzo, but he's a superb racer. The ignominious treatment he got at Yamaha after he won a Championship in account of Lamentino Llorossi, was completely undeserved. And then on to more idiots at Ducati.
Marc needs a real challenge, and if Honda give Lorenzo the year he needs to be in form, it'll be one hell of a contender for Marc (in the mean time he'll accrue his 8th World Title).


Replace Lorenzo with Petrucci? What joke, and a total disrespect for Lorenzo. Ducati deserves what's coming to them, in the form of no more World Titles until both Márquez and Lorenzo decide to retire.



Good times indeed (not for Ducati though).
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Makes you wonder how much of a whiney prick you have to be for two teams to pass on a 5 time world champion.
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Makes you wonder how much of a whiney prick you have to be for two teams to pass on a 5 time world champion.

And both bitterly regret it
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Do you think yamaha would be in a better position if Lorenzo had stayed? Interesting... something i hadnt even considered.
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