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Old 08-15-2018, 10:29 AM
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My center stand failed this morning. This breakage is on the arm that is used to raise the bike up on the center stand. Anyone see this before? I'll have to take a shot a replacing it myself.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:01 PM
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My center stand failed this morning. This breakage is on the arm that is used to raise the bike up on the center stand. Anyone see this before? I'll have to take a shot a replacing it myself.

Is it OEM or aftermarket?
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:03 PM
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There are threads on how to install this piece. A search will help you out. The spring is heavy duty and makes it tricky to install the unit. Remove belly pan. Bolt up the right side loosely. Install the left side spring mounting plate and have that side main bolt at the ready. Put the stand in the horizontal position, take a broom handle or some pry bar and wedge the stand towards the rear. Insert the left side bolt. Picture becomes clear as you are doing it. They need to be removed once and a while to grease anyway. Only use OEM parts.
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Go to a welder and have it welded back together in place.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:33 PM
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Re: Failed centerstand

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Go to a welder and have it welded back together in place.

Yep, been there done that. I used a piece of round stock inserted inside and welded it back on myself.
Make sure you get it back to the original angle, as it can alter the way the two main feet hit the ground. DAMHIK. I wasn't too far off, but it can make it tipsy if it is, so I corrected it. If you tack it in place before removing, make sure to disconnect the battery.
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Go to a welder and have it welded back together in place.
+1 ... that's what I did with my center stand when it failed. Much cheaper way to go than buying an OEM replacement or the SW Motech version.
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Re: Failed centerstand

This was the OEM center stand. 3.5 yrs old at this point. And I'm a firm believer in the center stand after I had the bike roll off the side stand ( lots of $$$$ in factory plastics ).

I didn't consider just welding it but that's a good suggestion.
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Go to a welder and have it welded back together in place.
Can a welder do that without screwing up the computers?
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Re: Failed centerstand

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My center stand failed this morning. This breakage is on the arm that is used to raise the bike up on the center stand. Anyone see this before? I'll have to take a shot a replacing it myself.

Happened to me as well. My bike had an extended warranty so the whole stand was replaced for free. If I didn't have the warranty then I would have taken it to a welder. Have them put a smaller diameter piece of round bar inside the hollow tube and then have it welded so it won't ever break again.
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Disregard.
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Re: Failed centerstand

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My center stand failed this morning. This breakage is on the arm that is used to raise the bike up on the center stand. Anyone see this before? I'll have to take a shot a replacing it myself.




I rarely use my K1300s centerstand. However, I had the same failure years ago on my 1985 K100RS, after several years. I used the centerstand on that bike almost every time I parked it.


Just a small, mostly irrelevant data point.
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Re: Failed centerstand

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I'm a firm believer in the center stand after I had the bike roll off the side stand ( lots of $$$$ in factory plastics ).

Leave it in first, never in neutral on the side stand.

I used a grinder on the tab on the sidestand that contacts the bracket so the sidestand goes farther forward, and the bike leans further over. Now my K bike needs a bit of effort to stand up, but I doubt it will ever roll off. BMW sidestands amaze me the way they teeter the bike at nearly vertical (and that the foot is so tiny).

I've got the SW Motech stand, and because I use it practically every time I park, I worry about snapping it off. I'll never understand welding a tube to a tube without a gusset. It's like a deliberate "snap off here". Neither the SW Motech or OEM center stands are as beefy as the center stand on the Suzuki Bandit, for example.
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Leave it in first, never in neutral on the side stand.

Yes, hard lesson learned. Until I get my centerstand replaced, I'm paranoid when parking. I place the bike in 1st gear, roll it forward in gear so it won't roll any more, then place the chicken leg side stand down. Even better if can park up hill.

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I used a grinder on the tab on the sidestand

Worth trying. I use the side stand on all my other bikes in without fear.
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Re: Failed centerstand

Happened to me while the bike was at the dealer for work. It broke when they tried to put it up while on the bike stand.


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Breaking immediately next to the weld (pulled off the surface) = penetration.
Breaking of material adjacent to the weld = improper process.

I try to assist the stand with as much leg and back work as I can muster. A holdover from a British cycle on which the center stand had no "arm" to assist the lift. I suspect BMW considers the center stand a maintenance tool rather than a normal use device. Just guessing, but none were built with a center stand as far as I know.
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Re: Failed centerstand

Bought an OEM replacement stand and installed it using the method described in another thread without too much difficulty.

My biggest struggle was the original bolts had red loctite on them from the dealer who did the initial install. Once I got those lose, the rest was pretty easy. Thanks for all your input on this.
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Re: Failed centerstand

Bikes tipping over off the side stand almost never happens if the bike is left in 1st gear. Don't know why other mfgs. have not copied the simple solution HD uses. The side stand drops into a notch when the bike is leaned over and cannot fold up. When the bike is upright a spring drops the side stand out of the locked position so it can be raised. Simple elegant design.
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I guess the BMW engineers weren't trying to account for sloppy parking.
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Always give the side stand a little tap to make sure it is all the way forward. While pushing the cycle around, if you brush the ground or anything else with the side stand, the side stand can move slightly rear appearing to be fully extended. When you lean it over, you will hear a familiar clunk as the side stand folds followed by an unfamiliar whack as the cycle comes onto its side and misses your wife's Mercedes.
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