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Old 11-07-2018, 09:13 AM
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Due for a new set soon and then doing twisty Tasmanian roads for a week so need sticky, not too fussed about longevity.
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Michelin Pilot Power RS. Can't go wrong.
I have to agree these tires are really awesome - many track day riders use them - well up to a certain point - if you are riding in the advanced groups at the upper end then these tires may not be for you.

For a street sport rider I think these are one of the best if not the best right now.
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Running Dunlop Q3+ currently on my K13S. they rock, on both street and track!
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I have 7000+ miles on Angel GT's. (1/3 hooligan roads and 2/3's slab) I don't find any performance difference between these and the many Michelin PR3's and PR4's before them. The Angels might "feel" a bit more responsive. They were cheaper. The Michelins perhaps wore better on the straight and narrow. Not much to choose between them. I was pleased with both the Pirelli's and the Michelins. (BTW, the 7000 miles was about 1500 beyond good on the rear.)

Note though, that I ride a little Red Triumph 955-i Sprint GT that weighs about 480 lbs and makes only 118 HP. The Angels do handle 2-up hooliganism with no problems.
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Metzeler M7 RR. The bike in question is not a track bike. You need an all around sport touring. (although the power tires are great)
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Due for a new set soon and then doing twisty Tasmanian roads for a week so need sticky, not too fussed about longevity.




Pirelli Angel GT's. On my 4th set now. Solo or two-up, they are very very stable in the curves, and turn in well if you have enough air in the front. Last ... average? How would I know, since I've only used these after the stock M3 was gone.
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I'm also using the new Power RS.. The grip is phenomenal. Best I've ever seen on a street tire..

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Metzeler M7 RR. The bike in question is not a track bike. You need an all around sport touring. (although the power tires are great)
I know it is not a track bike the question was looking for a sticky tire (grip) not concerned with longevity - the Michelin RS is fantastic and I mentioned it was so good many track riders use them.

Truth is the sport tires today are all really good - the rider has to decide just how good they want - if traction is the main concern going to lose in the wear department - if you want long lasting you are going to lose in the grip department.

The RS has it all - they grip like nothing short of full blown race tires and they have good longevity and they are okay in the rain - not great but okay.
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I know it is not a track bike the question was looking for a sticky tire (grip) not concerned with longevity - the Michelin RS is fantastic and I mentioned it was so good many track riders use them.

Ditto. OP did not appear to be looking for a touring tire (pilot/angel/M7), wanted sticky road tire with wear not critical. The RS and the Dunlop Q3+ both excel in that category....
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Another one that thinks the Q3+ has you covered for the street.
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Revzilla has a great price on the Power RSs.
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Twisty Roads for a week?...and then what?...boring Slab Duty?

Here in the land of Corn & Beans (Illinois) we got lots of straight roads. One has to go out of your way to find what I'd call "Swerverage".

Even so, I too have been running only Pirelli Angel GTs (Non-A Spec) since the OEM Metzelers wore out ~17k miles ago. The Angel GTs are great for almost all riding conditions (dry/wet/hot/cold) and the best part is they perform well up to the end of life.

My experience with other brands (Michelin/Bridgestone/Dunlop) was typically a great but short "Honeymoon" and then fade into "slip-sliding-away".

I've heard it said before, if you need track tires for street riding, you may be going too fast for conditions (no margin) on the street.
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Twisty Roads for a week?...and then what?...boring Slab Duty?

I'm really hoping to wear them out in a week! 4Kkm, maybe 5Kkm in 7 days is likely.
This is where I hope to do it. Motorcycling in Tasmania https://experimentalghost.files.word...ders-guide.pdf
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If not, in Feb/Mar I have another 3-4 day ride thru the SE Oz alps to finish them off.

I have PR4's on now, but they're half worn and I don't wanna waste time searching for new tyres when I could be having fun in the twisties. I'll put the PR4's back on when whatever I use in Tassie are finished with. I find them pretty good and I haven't ruled out getting another set of them either.

Ultimately, it might depend on what the local lads have in the rack. Realistically, following the common idea that all the big brand tyres are bloody good I'd be happy with that. I certainly don't want a race tyre, but something that sticks well and is good in the wet.
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Metzeler M7 RR. The bike in question is not a track bike. You need an all around sport touring. (although the power tires are great)


Got this response elsewhere.. the Metzeler M7RR is a high-performance street tire inspired by IOM road racing that "also performs very good on wet pavement". It will not perform as well as a PR4 or Roadtech 01 in the wet and rain, but totally outperform both in all other conditions in my experience. You can expect around 3000 to 3500 miles out of a set on K12's.


Tassie tends to be moist and I'm partial to Michelin's so might still just get them again. The current set would likely require replacement during this trip and I don't want to waste time finding and replacing a tyre whilst I'm away.
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I've heard it said before, if you need track tires for street riding, you may be going too fast for conditions (no margin) on the street.


and the extension of that is...if you need a 175hp, 185mph capable super sport motorcycle for street riding, you may be going too fast for conditions...

i see you ride a K1300S...just saying....

noone has suggested track tires in this thread....just high performance street tires that are also good on a track in non-race groups......

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and the extension of that is...if you need a 175hp, 185mph capable super sport motorcycle for street riding, you may be going too fast for conditions...

i see you ride a K1300S...just saying....

noone has suggested track tires in this thread....just high performance street tires that are also good on a track in non-race groups......


Point taken...but...

The Sovereign POWER at the rear wheel is great for passing slower traffic. I consider it safer to pass slower traffic if you have massive acceleration available when circumstances call for it.

As for K1300S WFO...not me and likely never. The K1300S is plenty thrilling at lesser speeds.
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yes! wow! he is right...we will be jealous!
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I still like the Pirelli Rosso Corsa on my K13S.
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Jargon, what do you see/experience as several of the differences between the Pirelli's - Angel GT's vs. the Rosa Corsa's?
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Jargon, what do you see/experience as several of the differences between the Pirelli's - Angel GT's vs. the Rosa Corsa's?
Tyson, I don’t ride the DRC’s in the rain, a little squirrelly for me, so for that reason, I’m going to try the Angels next, and my expectation is that they will perform just as well on dry pavement, with huge improvements over the DRC’s in the wet.
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My Triumph weighs only 480 lbs. But I'm over 200 lbs in all my gear. But, I also ride two-up reasonably swiftly in the twistys. Cathy is 150 with helmet, boots and jacket. With all that, the bike still handles great with the Angels. (However, I only have about 118 HP to put to the pavement.)
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Tyson, I don’t ride the DRC’s in the rain, a little squirrelly for me, so for that reason, I’m going to try the Angels next, and my expectation is that they will perform just as well on dry pavement, with huge improvements over the DRC’s in the wet.
So here's the thing, I don't know a lot, but I do know a little. There's a trade off, ALWAYS a trade off. All other things equal, more rubber on the [dry] road equals more grip. Same is so the other way.

Dunlop recently introduced the Q4 to market, an ex-racer was running lap times within three seconds of the top times running the Q4 WITHOUT WARMERS.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...p-q4-tire-test

The Q4 is marketed as a DOT legal street/trackday tire - the same category of tires that we are discussing here for the op. These would NOT be considered the most sticky tire at the track when compared with full on race slicks.

BUT... there's always a but, the Dunlops have least amount of siping available to still meet DOT approval. How do they fair in the rain? No personal experience, but I can tell you that a RAIN RACE tire looks much more similar to a Pilot Road series tire (or Dunlop Roadsmart you might say) than a Q4. I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and speculate that tires that provide ULTIMATE and uncompromising dry grip are giving up a bit in the wet.
Conclusion, if you trip is somewhere known to have a wet season, I'd say you might not like the results in the wet of the tire category that you are searching in. That said, if it stays dry... NIRVANA!
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I've gone for the Metzler Roadtec 01.


The long range rain forecast keeps changing as one would expect 10 days out. However it seems to be changing for the wetter. The Roadtecs get good wet riding reviews as does the Mich PR4.


The Metzlers were a tad cheaper.


I'll report back on how they went...mid December. Thanks y'all for the opinions.
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The week is done. What a great ride.

The first two days were miserable and wet though. The Metz Roadtec 01 tyres were confidence inspiring and I'm glad I bought them. The roads were clean but constant rain made for uncomfortable conditions on unknown tight and twisty roads.

Due to a combo of factors, we didn't do the distances we thought we might. I did ~ 2.4Kkms maybe 1000-1600kms less than I thought we'd do.

Factors included the weather for the first two days, a small fall but a snapped clutch lever on a 2001 Ducati, fatigue of riders who haven't done much riding for a long while, general sensibilities and then the quest to relax a bit. We've grown more sensible I expect.
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