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Old 12-02-2018, 09:53 PM
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Warning triangle light after falling left side

Never before in my life I had this.

I am learnig to drive my new to me K1200RS 2002
After 40 years having BMW, first a one cyl 250 and later a R100/7 this is the first time I lost it in slow tight turn the left. The bike rested a couple of seconds with the engine on.
Nothing seriuos really just a few bruises and a small crack that I already repaired with epoxy.

But after lifting the bike a warning light came in.
I also have the ABS warning light since I bought the bike, but after changing pads and thorough flushing the black gunk out of her break lines, it breaks a lot better than my old lady, and that is good enough for me.

There is no smoke, runs evenly, breaks well but it worries me this warning light,
Anybody has a suggestion as to where to look for the solution to this?

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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Welcome to the site. Check the fluid levels in the reservoirs under the seat, and also the micro switches for the brakes, rear and front. If the bike fell on its right side the brake pedal may have bent a little bit and the contact for the microswitch may be off, it touches on part number 7 in this diagram,




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Never before in my life I had this.

I am learnig to drive my new to me K1200RS 2002
After 40 years having BMW, first a one cyl 250 and later a R100/7 this is the first time I lost it in slow tight turn the left. The bike rested a couple of seconds with the engine on.
Nothing seriuos really just a few bruises and a small crack that I already repaired with epoxy.

But after lifting the bike a warning light came in.
I also have the ABS warning light since I bought the bike, but after changing pads and thorough flushing the black gunk out of her break lines, it breaks a lot better than my old lady, and that is good enough for me.

There is no smoke, runs evenly, breaks well but it worries me this warning light,
Anybody has a suggestion as to where to look for the solution to this?

Thank you
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

I had the ABS lite come on on my K12RS, spun the rear tire, slipped out and fell down as I was leaving a parking deck. I worked thru Anton Lagardier's ABS reset to clear the ABS lite.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:47 AM
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

General warning light? Triangle?That one if On solid it is usually a defective brake light.Replace bulb with a fresh new 1157.Preferably the good Phillips brand with the silver metal base.

ABS light on solid? Residual braking function only.Not enough brakes that's for sure.

2002 iABS.No real reset procedure for them.Anton's method is for the earlier ABS system.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

When falling on its side, brake fluid can flow from the reservoir through the drain tube. I had this with I-ABS. Then after a short trip, the yellow triangle stopped bothering.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Yellow triangle?Not on a iABS equipped K1200RS.Red only.
Yellow would be for the Canbus bikes such as the early R1200GS with the same brand of servo iABS as my and the OP's K.

Yellow....turns to Red and then residual only on an 05GS?Investigations with the GS911?After much investigations I castrated it.Test ride with normal brakes was conclusive but I just about face planted it on gravel.The worn front tire has since been replaced.

Residual braking action on an iABS bike? Not much there,a lot of the MC pressure has to go through the system before it gets to the calipers.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

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Yellow triangle?Not on a iABS equipped K1200RS.Red only.
Yellow would be for the Canbus bikes such as the early R1200GS with the same brand of servo iABS as my and the OP's K.

Yellow....turns to Red and then residual only on an 05GS?Investigations with the GS911?After much investigations I castrated it.Test ride with normal brakes was conclusive but I just about face planted it on gravel.The worn front tire has since been replaced.

Residual braking action on an iABS bike? Not much there,a lot of the MC pressure has to go through the system before it gets to the calipers.
Damn, I made a reservation. I meant the lamp "abs error". I apologize.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

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Damn, I made a reservation. I meant the lamp "abs error". I apologize.

If yours goes red on an iABS system you may want to castrate it.Not very cost effective repairing them on an old bike.I personally am ready to do that on my K on the road.No effing way I'd go anywhere on residual only.Next motel with a shade tree?

Anyway.....pics from the rider's manual.The servo-iABS equipped one.2002 and up/US models.2001 and up for the rest of the world:


2018-12-03_07-26-47 by Pierre Begin - Flickr2BBcode



2018-12-03_07-26-47 by Pierre Begin - Flickr2BBcode



2018-12-03_07-27-11 by Pierre Begin - Flickr2BBcode



2018-12-03_07-27-11 by Pierre Begin - Flickr2BBcode
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

When you get this figured out, that black gunk is the inside of your brake lines breaking down. You need new brake lines. This will require a good flush also. Spiegler is a good brand and can be found in a complete kit for your bike.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Gunk that may just have plugged the filters on the module?

http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=38633
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

I'm wondering if you have the same problem as my 2006 K1200S...

about a year ago, my knee gave out while I was pushing my bike around the shop and the bike went over.. It didn't actually touch the floor but only by the grace of God there was some wood that softened the blow. ZERO damage. It was laying on it's side for a few minutes.

Once back up the warning light came on. Took it to the dealer and he said a small amount of brake fluid leaked out of the main ABS tank causing the light to come on.

The dealer said it wouldn't hurt anything to ride with the light on, but... until the 1 oz of brake fluid is replaced.. I'll not have ABS... Cost to replace that 1oz of fluid.. $1100..

I now have 2 pieces of electrical tape over the warning light...

BTW.. If you need brake lines.. we have kits here.. http://pirateslair.net/spiegler.htm

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Never before in my life I had this.

I am learnig to drive my new to me K1200RS 2002
After 40 years having BMW, first a one cyl 250 and later a R100/7 this is the first time I lost it in slow tight turn the left. The bike rested a couple of seconds with the engine on.
Nothing seriuos really just a few bruises and a small crack that I already repaired with epoxy.

But after lifting the bike a warning light came in.
I also have the ABS warning light since I bought the bike, but after changing pads and thorough flushing the black gunk out of her break lines, it breaks a lot better than my old lady, and that is good enough for me.

There is no smoke, runs evenly, breaks well but it worries me this warning light,
Anybody has a suggestion as to where to look for the solution to this?

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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

$1100.00?
I'd read the procedure and DIY for less than $20.00?
12 pages?
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...KysTPI2uMdUUcb
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Not sure if that's the same procedure... The tank I need access to is deep on the bike behind the engine and my dealer said no bleeding was involved...?

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$1100.00?
I'd read the procedure and DIY for less than $20.00?
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Thank you all for your answers.
Currently in germany
I will check the bike as soon as I get back to Mexico

My gratitude for you taking the time to answer

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Not sure if that's the same procedure... The tank I need access to is deep on the bike behind the engine and my dealer said no bleeding was involved...?

Isn't the ABS modulator the reservoir? Horizontal modulator just like the 1200GS/same year?

Them have an overflow tube from the top of the modulator.Two actually,I'd have looked at the outlets under the bike somewhere for that escaping fluid.Low fluid on a K1200RS/GT is both light on fast flash.But the OP already has the ABS light on steady at all times so I don't know if that may affect the other test functions.

No bleeding? 266,600 kms on my servo iABS.Too many have failed well before that.So mine gets yearly bleeds that it needs it or not.Brake fluid moisture tester? Less than $20.00? Tells me that my fluid is fine and doesn't need changing but I still do it every year.Usually over 20K (miles) anyway and always in need of deeper cleaning under the plastics?

I lit up that tester like a Christmas tree twice.That is over 5% moisture content. Twice but not on my bike.
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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Thank you vey much or your coment.
The bike fell on its left side and you are right the gearshift was bended back wards

I was able to straighten it by hand not quite understanding how the lever moves. Sort of turns and adjusts.

Do you have experience with the gearshift foot lever?

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Re: Warning triangle light after falling left side

Gracias everybody. Very valuable suggestions.

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